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1. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   5/6/2014 10:05 PM

   "We are in the process of making improvements to the website. Some areas will be unavailable during this period."

   
   
   
   
2. Curtis Nickerson

   

   0 posts
   
   5/7/2014 8:05 AM

   I noticed the jobs tab hasn't updated (at least for me) since the 23?!?

   
   
   
   
3. Verheek John

   
   5/7/2014 2:05 PM

   The upgrades we underwent last week were implemented smoothly and we are currently in the process of correcting any issues that may have been introduced (broken links, style updates, new functionality, etc.). We are also making improvements to the job board and if all goes well, we will be lifting our disclaimer by the end of the week.
   
   I will post to this thread if our status were to change.

   
   
   
   
4. Bryan Taylor

   

   0 posts
   
   5/9/2014 9:05 PM

   Still no job board and I cannot get into the TIF now.
   
   How long will all the upgrades take. Been over 2 weeks with no job postings.
   
   Bryan Taylor

   
   
   
   
5. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   5/21/2014 6:05 AM

   I received this email a couple days ago, "Visit the New and Improved GCSAA Job Board Today!"
   
   Yet I still do not see a job board link on the GCSAA homepage. Am I missing it?

   
   
   
   
6. Jason Baker

   

   12 posts
   
   5/22/2014 12:05 PM

   The GCSAA Home page looks terrible on my computer, like it is not fully loading. Header is missing, menu is covering what may be advertisments....just looks bad. Might be my problem?
   Other pages look finished and fine.

   
   
   
   
7. Robert Searle

   

   0 posts
   
   5/22/2014 1:05 PM

   Could it be the browser one is using? I'm on Firefox and all the pages mentioned function well. Switched to Firefox when the explorer security issue happened a few weeks ago and haven't looked back.

   
   
   
   
8. Scot Haynes

   

   0 posts
   
   5/28/2014 11:05 AM

   John Verheek said: The upgrades we underwent last week were implemented smoothly and we are currently in the process of correcting any issues that may have been introduced (broken links, style updates, new functionality, etc.). We are also making improvements to the job board and if all goes well, we will be lifting our disclaimer by the end of the week.
   
   I will post to this thread if our status were to change.

   
   
   Sorry to say it but the Job board revisions are not an improvement. Plus, any yahoo can access them. So now you will have gardeners applying for/stealing assistant jobs because you don't have to be a member. This really doesn't affect me, but it might affect someone that is just starting out in the business. There is already a free job board on Turfnet. Why cheapen our organization by allowing access to any yahoo in the green industry? If you compare the job quality on Turfnet vs GCSAA, the GCSAA have far more quality positions than Turfnet. Sometimes the two boards overlap, but it's not often. On an interesting note, the forums are protected. I think that you have it bass ackwards. My two cents, but what do I know?

   
   
   
   
9. Andrew Cross

   

   5 posts
   
   5/31/2014 3:05 PM

   Scot,
   
   I don't really see an issue with an open jobs board. So a gardener sees an asst job and applies, if I also apply for the same job I'm pretty sure I'm the better candidate. It is up to the person doing the hiring to weed out the bad applicants. I've been hearing of guys saying there is an assistant shortage, maybe this is the solution. I don't fear the additional applicants for the same job as my resume, work history, and references all speak for themselves and put me above the "yahoos" in the green industry. The forums however should be member only, as this is a great place to network and find answers, big value add in my opinion. Joe schmo golfer shouldn't be reading this stuff or the discussions would quickly be less detailed for fear of ammunition for someone to lose their job.
   
   Just my 2 cents

   
   
   
   
10. Scot Haynes

    

    0 posts
    
    6/1/2014 7:06 AM

    Andrew Cross said: Scot,
    
    I don't really see an issue with an open jobs board. So a gardener sees an asst job and applies, if I also apply for the same job I'm pretty sure I'm the better candidate. It is up to the person doing the hiring to weed out the bad applicants.
    
    The forums however should be member only, as this is a great place to network and find answers, big value add in my opinion. Joe schmo golfer shouldn't be reading this stuff or the discussions would quickly be less detailed for fear of ammunition for someone to lose their job.
    
    Just my 2 cents

    
    Andrew, like I stated before, this is not going to hurt guys like us. It's going to hurt the kid that decided that he/she wants a career in golf maintenance, but can't afford to go to a great school with a great internship. Instead of us protecting his/her future we hurt/dilute their chances for success, by letting a gardener apply for the same job. Remember Andrew there are a lot of assistants out there that don't have formal educations just experience so in my mind we're hurting them too.
    
    I also think its funny that you want the forums protected so owners or green committee members can't see what you are saying, so YOU can't lose your job. You my man are a hypocrite. Its OK for assistants to lose/compete for our jobs, but not OK to lose/compete for your job.

    
    
    
    
11. Andrew Cross

    

    5 posts
    
    6/1/2014 8:06 AM

    Scot Haynes said:

    Andrew Cross said: Scot,
    
    I don't really see an issue with an open jobs board. So a gardener sees an asst job and applies, if I also apply for the same job I'm pretty sure I'm the better candidate. It is up to the person doing the hiring to weed out the bad applicants.
    
    The forums however should be member only, as this is a great place to network and find answers, big value add in my opinion. Joe schmo golfer shouldn't be reading this stuff or the discussions would quickly be less detailed for fear of ammunition for someone to lose their job.
    
    Just my 2 cents

    
    Andrew, like I stated before, this is not going to hurt guys like us. It's going to hurt the kid that decided that he/she wants a career in golf maintenance, but can't afford to go to a great school with a great internship. Instead of us protecting his/her future we hurt/dilute their chances for success, by letting a gardener apply for the same job. Remember Andrew there are a lot of assistants out there that don't have formal educations just experience so in my mind we're hurting them too.
    
    I also think its funny that you want the forums protected so owners or green committee members can't see what you are saying, so YOU can't lose your job. You my man are a hypocrite. Its OK for assistants to lose/compete for our jobs, but not OK to lose/compete for your job.

    
    
    I'm still not seeing it. Let's say I am hiring an assistant. I get a guy that is a gardener, no golf experience but may have a hort degree. I also get a guy with no formal education but has multiple years experience at a golf course(s). I may interview the gardener, but I am damn sure gonna call the golf guys references and find out more about him. It's up to the interviewer to decide who is right. I'd rather have to go through 20 resumes than 2.
    
    My point regarding the forum, is not so I can't LOSE my job. I've been fired before, it sucks but not the reason for closed forums. Owners/green committee members etc do not understand you can't compare course to course. They may take things the wrong way. Guys post some fairly sensitive information here that is helpful to all who know how to properly process this information. My worry is that guys may stop posting that kind of stuff and that is hurtful to all members of GCSAA who use the forums. My other problem is that it may create Joe Schmo golfer constantly second guessing and challenging more superintendents with misinterpreted information "they heard from another superintendent." Have you ever looked at the Golf Architecture (not sure exact site) forums, that is not what we want to turn our forums into!

    
    
    
    
12. Scot Haynes

    

    0 posts
    
    6/1/2014 1:06 PM

    I'm not here to have a pissing match. I stated my opinion, you then stated yours, neither is wrong. I then played devils advocate and you replied again.
    
    Andrew,I have always thought that everything on the GCSAA site should be protected. This is our organization, our website, etc.....We are the ones paying for most of it. Let's grow and be stronger, not cheapen and get weaker. Thanks for your perspective, this is what this site is supposed to be about, learning different ideas/angles and growing together.

    
    
    
    
13. Thomas Sontheimer

    

    2 posts
    
    6/11/2014 4:06 PM

    The new jobs board is awful. Please go back to the original. Some things do not need to be changed just to freshen up.