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  1. Mike Petersen
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    12/7/2023 9:12 AM
    Does anyone have info on equipment replacement? with all the variables its hard to explain to my owner that a 12 year old fairway mower with 3800 hours needs to be replaced. looking for any industry standards if they exist.



  2. James Prusa
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    12/16/2023 2:12 PM in reply to Mike Petersen
    Mike,  I cannot seem to find other responses to your question, so I am responding in the blind.  Early in my career I ran into this issue.  I employed old US Naval Aviation approach called Manpower, Material and Maintenance.  In addition to recording exact costs and labor for the maintenance of every piece of equipment we had, essentially I started tracking what every staff employee did every day by about 30-40 typical tasks.  At the end of each shift every employee would account for their time on a daily work sheet at the timeclock.  It was all manual and there are computerized systems these days. 

    After about 6 months trends were obvious. After a year I could objectively demonstrate the cost efficacy of newer equipment versus inefficient ones.

    Now, having said that, I am not a big fan of simply replacing older equipment.  Sorry, but often time a solid maintenance and repair on good, efficient, older machines is indeed best.  I am running a 1949 Ford 8N tractor on my ranch - it is fully restored and a workhorse.  I learned to operate machines on this same model that my dad had.  Super easy to maintain and repair anything.  I went out of my way to find this machine and would not trade it for all the modern, useless bells & whistles you could offer me.

    FInally, a super needs to be highly skilled as a mechanic - so he can hireand pay well a great mechanic.  The mechanic is the second most important person on the golf course - pay them such!

    FYI, I cover this topic in my second book.  Some may find it controversial, but I call it how it is and will debate and win with anyone. Suggest a read in my Book 2, Chapter 18 : The Maintenance Hell Cause of Golf Course Equipment – A Lack of Best Practices. 

    Link to my books:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CPDBKSWR?binding=paperback&searchxofy=true&ref_=dbs_s_aps_series_rwt_tpbk&qid=1701724268&sr=8-1







  3. Melvin Waldron
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    12/26/2023 2:12 PM in reply to Mike Petersen
    Mike,

    I believe the USGA has some information on life spans of equipment.  

    But my opinion on the best way to get new equipment is to document the cost of repairs and downtime, especially if you have no backup, we run one fairway mower on our 18-hole course, luckily, we can get a backup if needed from our two other city courses if needed.  The other factor that might help is the cost of new machine maintenance, which hopefully requires less parts for it's early life.  For example, you have your reels on your current machine needing replaced, that's (I'm ballpark figuring here), $2,500 to replace them all?  Throw in bearings, seals, bedknives, etc, that could add up, although, I would spend $2,500 myself, if everything else is good on the machine. 

    Something else you can factor; can the new machine cover more acreage in less time?  How fuel efficient is the new mower compared to your current mower, do a man hour savings.  I have done this with equipment before, we had a small crew, it would take us 1 hour for 3 of us to clean plugs off of greens, for a total of 57 manhours, with a TC125 we could knock that down to 18 manhours, of course the labor savings would have taken 8 years to justify, but this was at a University golf course, and I was able to justify it's purchase by using it on athletic fields as well.  

    You could also use possible fuel savings if there is a difference between equipment. We have a couple of JD 1600's they burn about 2.1 to 2.3 gallons an hour, when we received our HR600, it was burning about 1.8 gallons an hour.  We put about 500+ hours on our rough units per season, we would save about 250 gallons of fuel at the average price of diesel at $4.00 per gallon, we would save $1,000 per season on fuel.  (of course, maintenance cost on our HR600 might eat that savings up) 

    Mel
      

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  4. Mike Petersen
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    13 posts
    2/15/2024 1:02 PM in reply to Melvin Waldron
    thank you sir!



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