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1. Ronald Kirkman

   

   40 posts
   
   9/1/2016 10:09 PM

   Greetings;
   
   You guys are getting soft or you just don't give a damn any more.
   
   OK ! OK! I know we have a first amendment and I realize many of our military personnel gave their lives so this guy Colin Kaepernick can sit down during The National Anthem being played at the football game. And, wear stockings that degrade police and saying the police get time off and continue to get paid while he/she gets investigated for killing a black man.
   
   I also realize except for the New England States, Tom Brady and the Patriots are not well liked. And, this Saturday, September 3 , Brady cannot go in the stadium or touch a football until October 1.
   
   Too bad the NFL protects wife, girl friend beaters and people who dislike cops. Maybe we won't have the Anthem any longer at sporting events. Maybe the fans somehow could stop going to games and also TV not carrying the games any more.
   
   Capt. Kirk
   Retired Alien
   Needham, MA

   
   
   
   
2. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   9/2/2016 5:09 AM

   c. k. is free to stand, sit, or lie down during the national anthem. And the rest of us are free to heckle him - especially for that gawd awful hairdo.

   
   
   
   
3. Kevin Fateley

   

   5 posts
   
   9/2/2016 11:09 AM

   1. The owner(s) should ban him from the stadium as a player.
   2. The owner(s) should buy out the guaranteed part of contract.
   3. The owner(s) should make up a tee shirt "49'ers, solid as a rock" and offer it to all of american to pay off the buy out.
   I would buy one in a instant and I follow the Chiefs.

   
   
   
   
4. Jeremy Hreben

   

   0 posts
   
   9/7/2016 7:09 AM

   Kevin Fateley said: 1. The owner(s) should ban him from the stadium as a player.
   2. The owner(s) should buy out the guaranteed part of contract.
   3. The owner(s) should make up a tee shirt "49'ers, solid as a rock" and offer it to all of american to pay off the buy out.
   I would buy one in a instant and I follow the Chiefs.

   
   
   They should but they can't. It is a violation of his rights. Now I am former military. SO sitting down during the Anthem makes me more mad than most anything else. Just because it is his right doesn't mean he HAS to do it. I have rights to do a lot of things but I choose to do it.
   
   I would've suggested everyone to ban 49er's games. However I see sales of his jersey are sky rocketing. That's says something about this country. We are in trouble.

   
   
   
   
5. Kevin Girt

   

   0 posts
   
   9/7/2016 7:09 AM

   I pray with my Republican heart they are buying the jerseys to burn on you-tube. Too many people would rather be the problem than to be a solution!

   
   
   
   
6. Larry Allan

   

   0 posts
   
   9/8/2016 9:09 AM

   Kevin Girt said: I pray with my Republican heart they are buying the jerseys to burn on you-tube. Too many people would rather be the problem than to be a solution!

   
   Republicans have hearts?
   If he has the right to do it, then he can do it. Freedom of speech and all that stuff. I wouldn't like it either but he is the only one it will hurt

   
   
   
   
7. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   9/8/2016 10:09 AM

   It will be interesting to see if c.k. sits or kneels this Sunday, September 11. c. k. is already being lambasted for his misguided sudo tantrum although there is a minority that supports him. He will lose a good chunk of that support if he shows a lack of respect on this anniversary. He should stay in the locker room until after the anthem.

   
   
   
   
8. Larry Allan

   

   0 posts
   
   9/8/2016 11:09 AM

   Clay Putnam, CGCS said: It will be interesting to see if c.k. sits or kneels this Sunday, September 11. c. k. is already being lambasted for his misguided sudo tantrum although there is a minority that supports him. He will lose a good chunk of that support if he shows a lack of respect on this anniversary. He should stay in the locker room until after the anthem.

   
   Clay, that makes the most sense of any of the comments

   
   
   
   
9. Stephen Ravenkamp

   

   1 posts
   
   9/8/2016 12:09 PM

   Just to throw another monkey wrench into the conversation...what about the hundreds (or thousands) of people at sporting events who don't stand up, don't take off their hats, carry on conversations, or walk around the concourses when the anthem is played? Are they any less disrespectful? Have you ever said anything to them? My view is they do that out of apathy and rudeness. At least CK, whether you agree with his method or not (I don't) is doing it for a reason.

   
   
   
   
10. Keith Lamb

    

    3 posts
    
    9/8/2016 1:09 PM

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11. Curtis Nickerson

    

    0 posts
    
    9/8/2016 1:09 PM

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    I cant remember the last time one was actually televised? Can you?

    
    
    
    
12. Kenneth Rue

    

    3 posts
    
    9/8/2016 1:09 PM

    My view is that he is another example of our youth in today's world that is misguided, seeking attention. I particularly don't appreciate him wearing socks demeaning our police but that is the freedom provided to him as an American citizen so who am I to judge.
    
    Having said that when President Obama got involved it is he who missed a golden opportunity to display his leadership by saying anyone black or white living in our free society can aspire and succeed in fulfilling their dreams by obtaining the office of President.
    
    As the young quarterback matures he hopefully will be regretful of his stance or sit to Old Glory.

    
    
    
    
13. Keith Lamb

    

    3 posts
    
    9/8/2016 4:09 PM

    Curtis Nickerson said:

    Keith Lamb said: [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/a-picture-of-99-99999-of-american-households-as-the-national-3625261_zpsukbckbb0.png.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/a-picture-of-99-99999-of-american-households-as-the-national-3625261_zpsukbckbb0.png[/img">

    
    
    
    I cant remember the last time one was actually televised? Can you?

    
    
    Approx. 46 times during the Rio Olympics is the latest I remember.

    
    
    
    
14. Curtis Nickerson

    

    0 posts
    
    9/8/2016 4:09 PM

    how patriotic of you to watch so much of he olympic games! Im impressed

    
    
    
    
15. Keith Lamb

    

    3 posts
    
    9/8/2016 5:09 PM

    Curtis Nickerson said: how patriotic of you to watch so much of he olympic games! Im impressed

    
    
    I was on vacation the first week and I think that was all we watched. Glad to know I passed the Patriotic Litmus test.
    
    How much rain did you guys get last week? 5.5" here.

    
    
    
    
16. Curtis Nickerson

    

    0 posts
    
    9/8/2016 6:09 PM

    Keith Lamb said:

    Curtis Nickerson said: how patriotic of you to watch so much of he olympic games! Im impressed

    
    
    I was on vacation the first week and I think that was all we watched. Glad to know I passed the Patriotic Litmus test.
    
    How much rain did you guys get last week? 5.5" here.

    
    
    if watching the Olympic is the test I failed miserably! The Olympics have never interested me...
    Just over 8" I've got puddles still next to hot spots! crazy

    
    
    
    
17. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    9/8/2016 7:09 PM

    Stephen Ravenkamp, CGCS said: Just to throw another monkey wrench into the conversation...what about the hundreds (or thousands) of people at sporting events who don't stand up, don't take off their hats, carry on conversations, or walk around the concourses when the anthem is played? Are they any less disrespectful? Have you ever said anything to them? My view is they do that out of apathy and rudeness. At least CK, whether you agree with his method or not (I don't) is doing it for a reason.

    
    
    Two entirely different examples. Kaepernick is representing a team, a city, a professional organization, all eyes are on that person, all cameras are on that person, and on and on. Joe Shmoe in the stands represents none of the above and is irrelevant.

    
    
    
    
18. Larry Allan

    

    0 posts
    
    9/9/2016 5:09 AM

    Keith Lamb said:

    Curtis Nickerson said: how patriotic of you to watch so much of he olympic games! Im impressed

    
    
    I was on vacation the first week and I think that was all we watched. Glad to know I passed the Patriotic Litmus test.
    
    How much rain did you guys get last week? 5.5" here.

    
    We got .8 inches last night. Pretty much the sum total for June July and August.
    Never been so happy to see the bunkers washed

    
    
    
    
19. Melvin Waldron

    

    43 posts
    
    9/9/2016 7:09 AM

    Curtis Nickerson said:

    Keith Lamb said: [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/a-picture-of-99-99999-of-american-households-as-the-national-3625261_zpsukbckbb0.png.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/a-picture-of-99-99999-of-american-households-as-the-national-3625261_zpsukbckbb0.png[/img">

    
    
    
    I cant remember the last time one was actually televised? Can you?

    
    
    All the championship games they televise because they will have a big name singer. Regular season, no.
    
    Mel

    
    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
    
    
20. Frank McQuiggan

    

    2 posts
    
    9/9/2016 10:09 AM

    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:

    Stephen Ravenkamp, CGCS said: Just to throw another monkey wrench into the conversation...what about the hundreds (or thousands) of people at sporting events who don't stand up, don't take off their hats, carry on conversations, or walk around the concourses when the anthem is played? Are they any less disrespectful? Have you ever said anything to them? My view is they do that out of apathy and rudeness. At least CK, whether you agree with his method or not (I don't) is doing it for a reason.

    
    
    Two entirely different examples. Kaepernick is representing a team, a city, a professional organization, all eyes are on that person, all cameras are on that person, and on and on. Joe Shmoe in the stands represents none of the above and is irrelevant.

    
    
    Joe Shmoe is not irrelevant he is just as disrespectful as CK, and yes I have said something to those types of people when I see it. When ever I am out somewhere and the National Anthem is played after it is finished if I can pin point the offenders I will say something.

    
    
    
    
21. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    9/10/2016 6:09 AM

    Frank McQuiggan said:

    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:

    Stephen Ravenkamp, CGCS said: Just to throw another monkey wrench into the conversation...what about the hundreds (or thousands) of people at sporting events who don't stand up, don't take off their hats, carry on conversations, or walk around the concourses when the anthem is played? Are they any less disrespectful? Have you ever said anything to them? My view is they do that out of apathy and rudeness. At least CK, whether you agree with his method or not (I don't) is doing it for a reason.

    
    
    Two entirely different examples. Kaepernick is representing a team, a city, a professional organization, all eyes are on that person, all cameras are on that person, and on and on. Joe Shmoe in the stands represents none of the above and is irrelevant.

    
    
    Joe Shmoe is not irrelevant he is just as disrespectful as CK, and yes I have said something to those types of people when I see it. When ever I am out somewhere and the National Anthem is played after it is finished if I can pin point the offenders I will say something.

    
    
    I should have provided clarity. The average Joe is not relevant in terms of respect for the anthem, however, Joe Shmoe is irrelevant to the cameras, the national spotlight, representing the city, representing the league... Still distinctly different.

    
    
    
    
22. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    9/10/2016 7:09 AM

    Action. Reaction.
    
    http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/09/09/broncos-lb-brandon-marshall-loses-endorsement-deal-for-kneeling-during-anthem/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fakesc&utm_campaign=fb

    
    
    
    
23. Sandy Clark

    

    0 posts
    
    9/12/2016 9:09 AM

    I would love to know if Colin was picked on by the cops while growing up? All I knew was that he was a heck of a ballplayer out of Reno. Had no clue what his race or combination of races may have been. I never gave it a second thought. Certainly didn't know he was part black until he made a big deal out of it and again, I didn't care what his background was. Why can't guys like Colin, who have been blessed with talent, get a free college education, become mentors to young minorities and teach them how to achieve and stay out of trouble with the law? I think that would be a far more positive way to bring awareness to what is perceived as injustice. Teach young people how to succeed and be model citizens. Just might be more productive than pointing out how bad cops treat minorities.

    
    
    
    
24. Melvin Waldron

    

    43 posts
    
    9/12/2016 10:09 AM

    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: I would love to know if Colin was picked on by the cops while growing up? All I knew was that he was a heck of a ballplayer out of Reno. Had no clue what his race or combination of races may have been. I never gave it a second thought. Certainly didn't know he was part black until he made a big deal out of it and again, I didn't care what his background was. Why can't guys like Colin, who have been blessed with talent, get a free college education, become mentors to young minorities and teach them how to achieve and stay out of trouble with the law? I think that would be a far more positive way to bring awareness to what is perceived as injustice. Teach young people how to succeed and be model citizens. Just might be more productive than pointing out how bad cops treat minorities.

    
    
    I agree with all that you said, but there are some issues even for model black citizens such as Republican Senator from South Carolina Tim Scott http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/t ... ate-225507
    but there is no race problem. Rush says so.
    
    Mel

    
    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
    
    
25. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    9/13/2016 9:09 PM

    Might make a trip to Houston worthwhile.....
    
    http://www.click2houston.com/news/cigar ... as-doormat

    
    
    
    
26. Ronald Kirkman

    

    40 posts
    
    9/16/2016 7:09 PM

    I did not know he is converting to the Muslim Religion.
    
    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA

    
    
    
    
27. Sandy Clark

    

    0 posts
    
    9/22/2016 11:09 AM

    Mel, I know we still have racism but my fear is is flipping the other way right now. Seems like lots of hate in the black communities for all whites rather they have ever caused a problem or not. People today that are white and racist are definitely in the minority. I have always said I am only prejudice to a couple of groups and color has nothing to do with it. I really dislike truly stupid people and a racist would fall under that category and I also truly dislike stupid people who are rude or cruel to others. Respect each other and benefit from the good in all people and life would be pretty easy. I am not color sensitive to my admitted prejudice since stupid people who are truly offensive by their actions or hate come in all colors, creeds etc. I just don't allow the stupids into my life. I will be polite and then have nothing to do with them.