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RUSSIA and TRUMP - THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW

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  1. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    5/11/2017 8:05 PM
    Greetings;

    I will be truthful and tell you I am one of those deplorable Americans in a basket that voted for Mr. Trump. Now that Mr. Comey is gone I think the Clinton's might be a little bit worried. Maybe, just maybe the Attorney General might review their case again.

    Comey recommended no prosecution for the Clinton's but that was not his call. But then, he did not want to be responsible for Trump gaining the presidency. And, Mrs. Lynch and Mr. Obama would not prosecute anyway. Different rules of laws for politicians than what you and I have. Actually, if they did acquire a Grand Jury, Hillary might just have gotten out of the race and the Democrats might have put somebody in there that might have beaten Mr. Trump.

    Mr. Trump and Russia are in collusion with each other and the FBI will prove that shortly. Mr. Trump has Russia almost convinced to be the fifty-first (51) state in America. When that happens, all those idiotic reporters and those left-wing Democrats and some Republicans will be shipped off to Siberia. AMEN!!!!!!

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  2. Peter Bowman
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    11 posts
    5/11/2017 9:05 PM
    Ronald Kirkman said: ?....

    Mr. Trump has Russia almost convinced to be the fifty-first (51) state in America.......

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    Capt,

    If that were to happen Barack Obama would then consider it the 58th state.



  3. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    5/12/2017 9:05 AM
    The scary part about all of this is, before it's over we might be saying President Ryan, that is if President Trump doesn't last until 2018, (VP Pence seems to be wrapped up in this more than I first thought, so he's getting passed over) it might be a crap shoot after 2018 if Ryan looses his seat, maybe a President Pelosi? (God, I shudder at the thought of any of them)

    Let this be a lesson to all voters, get off you butts and vote, especially in primaries, where the far left and right end up choosing the pitiful candidates we end up electing for all offices.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  4. Larry Allan
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    0 posts
    5/17/2017 6:05 AM
    Hey Capt. are you still comfortable with your choice?



  5. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    5/17/2017 7:05 PM
    Larry Allan said: Hey Capt. are you still comfortable with your choice?


    ABSOLUTELY Larry;

    I'd vote for Mr. Trump again in a heart beat. The Democrats and the news people - ABC - CBS - NBC and your cable news EXCEPT FOX are all against Mr. Trump. They hate him because he will clean up Washington, maybe not in this term but next term. They like the status quo.

    Trump is not a politician and he will make mistakes but he is learning. He was voted in fair and square and Hillary lost. However, the left and the media will not accept this.

    THE BETTER PERSON WON THE PRESIDENCY.

    Larry, after my little post here this political part of the forum will go on and last as long as the Russian Collusion goes on. This post and others on this subject will go on until November 2018.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  6. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    5/18/2017 12:05 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said:
    Larry Allan said: Hey Capt. are you still comfortable with your choice?


    ABSOLUTELY Larry;

    I'd vote for Mr. Trump again in a heart beat. The Democrats and the news people - ABC - CBS - NBC and your cable news EXCEPT FOX are all against Mr. Trump. They hate him because he will clean up Washington, maybe not in this term but next term. They like the status quo.

    Trump is not a politician and he will make mistakes but he is learning. He was voted in fair and square and Hillary lost. However, the left and the media will not accept this.

    THE BETTER PERSON WON THE PRESIDENCY.

    Larry, after my little post here this political part of the forum will go on and last as long as the Russian Collusion goes on. This post and others on this subject will go on until November 2018.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    This post is delusional.

    Why is the media against Trump? He keeps shooting himself in the foot and then blames the media for reporting it.

    Why does the media and the left like the "stauts quo"? Congressional approval ratings are abysmal.

    If you think Fox News supports Trump, listen to Shepard Smith and Chris Wallace. Fox has a few courageous people not afraid to speak the truth even after what happened to Megyn Kelly.

    How is Trump going to "clean up Washington"? His appointees represent Wall Street and big oil and the Russians. What concrete actions has he taken or has he outlined to "drain the swamp"?

    Trump makes mistakes as we all do, but learning he is not. To learn, one needs a degree of introspection and the ability to view one's own actions objectively. Trump's one and only reaction to a failure is to blame some one else.

    Everyone accepts that Trump is the President, but "fair and square" is debatable.

    Trump is the most arrogant President we've ever had.



  7. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    5/18/2017 9:05 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said:
    Larry Allan said: Hey Capt. are you still comfortable with your choice?


    ABSOLUTELY Larry;

    I'd vote for Mr. Trump again in a heart beat. The Democrats and the news people - ABC - CBS - NBC and your cable news EXCEPT FOX are all against Mr. Trump. They hate him because he will clean up Washington, maybe not in this term but next term. They like the status quo.

    Trump is not a politician and he will make mistakes but he is learning. He was voted in fair and square and Hillary lost. However, the left and the media will not accept this.

    THE BETTER PERSON WON THE PRESIDENCY.

    Larry, after my little post here this political part of the forum will go on and last as long as the Russian Collusion goes on. This post and others on this subject will go on until November 2018.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



    Do you have a problem with Robert Mueller?



  8. Ronald Kirkman
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    40 posts
    5/18/2017 3:05 PM
    Greetings;

    Mr. Conard, I have no problem with Mr. Robert Mueller. When he is through, what ever he says is good enough for me. Hope this investigation goes fast.

    Mr. Okula, the media was against Trump before he was even elected as President.

    You have doubts he won the election fair and square - come on back to the states and you will feel right at home.

    I don't like Shepard Smith or Chris Wallace and I don't watch them. Lou Dobbs, Tucker and Hannity are my favorites.

    It would be nice if people like Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer, Waters to name a few moved to France. I'm sure you would get along very well with them.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  9. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    5/19/2017 12:05 AM
    The media worked against Trump in his campaign by giving him the spotlight and untold millions of dollars of free publicity that the other candidates could only get by paying. The media was Trump's reason for success.

    Why is Trump bleating about a "witchhunt"? By all accounts, Mueller is the most honest man in America and has more integrity than God. He has unanimous support across the political spectrum. By whining about it, Trump only isolates himself.

    If it were me (and if I was innocent) I would welcome the investigation with open arms and do everything in my power to cooperate and see it through as quickly as possible. If there has been no wrong-doing, then the Trump administration can get on with business undistracted.

    One interesting aspect of the special investigation is that if he decides it's warranted, Mueller can subpoena Trump's tax returns. I think that's what Trump is most afraid of because it would mean the end of him.

    Let's see how Trump handles it.



  10. Steven Kurta
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    2 posts
    5/19/2017 5:05 AM
    Me: Looking past Trump, because he's an anomaly, and trying to see a positive in the next 3+ years.
    Similar to what many did during Bams.. I'm hopeful it spurs some good young moderates to emerge from both sides that know how to compromise. That it's come to this (trump) is ridiculous.

    Hillz was an awful candidate. The dems should've stepped aside and run a dud. They were done, let it go, bams tried and failed.. Let the better choices in the GOP present themselves and move on. Kasich was a great choice. It's a shame real talent was passed over. That it had to turn into a clown show where Trump actually exists as potus, IMO, says more about how much pent-up hate and outrage still exists in this country.. It's weird, but not surprising. Those kinds of feelings don't die easily, 150 years isn't.that long ago in the scheme of tbings.

    Looking forward to moderates like Sasse and Flake, and even Ryan, to give him the best shovel and plenty of room to dig and let him slowly bury himself.. Let him suffocate. Take what they need as they can and cut him loose when the time is right.

    The funny part is the dems brought trump into relevancy by running Hillary.. They created trump's legitimacy through their blindness.. They're ridiculous for not seeing it and deserve a lot of the credit/blame for this.



  11. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    5/19/2017 9:05 AM
    Steven Kurta said: Me: Looking past Trump, because he's an anomaly, and trying to see a positive in the next 3+ years.
    Similar to what many did during Bams.. I'm hopeful it spurs some good young moderates to emerge from both sides that know how to compromise. That it's come to this (trump) is ridiculous.

    Hillz was an awful candidate. The dems should've stepped aside and run a dud. They were done, let it go, bams tried and failed.. Let the better choices in the GOP present themselves and move on. Kasich was a great choice. It's a shame real talent was passed over. That it had to turn into a clown show where Trump actually exists as potus, IMO, says more about how much pent-up hate and outrage still exists in this country.. It's weird, but not surprising. Those kinds of feelings don't die easily, 150 years isn't.that long ago in the scheme of tbings.

    Looking forward to moderates like Sasse and Flake, and even Ryan, to give him the best shovel and plenty of room to dig and let him slowly bury himself.. Let him suffocate. Take what they need as they can and cut him loose when the time is right.

    The funny part is the dems brought trump into relevancy by running Hillary.. They created trump's legitimacy through their blindness.. They're ridiculous for not seeing it and deserve a lot of the credit/blame for this.


    Skurta...how've you been?

    I agree with your post. The extremes with all their hate, inability to compromise, and lack of basic decorum have pushed our country into a state of something like aeroelastic flutter and it's about to take down the bridge.

    I work with a guy who is on the extreme. His view is that if you're a moderate then you're a marshmallow and don't really stand for anything. I see being a moderate as having the ability to look at an issue on it's own merit and not simply whether the other side agrees with it or not. The extremist's minds seize up and instantly go into battle mode once the other side offers up an idea. It's the evolutionary survival mechanism at play of running with the pack, choosing a side and drawing out an enemy. But at this point in time that mindset is really de-evolution.

    I will say I believe some of what brought Trump into office was Obama's rhetoric and policies. He never was able to bring the white working class male into the fold. Everyone else seemed to be getting some consideration under his administration and they had had enough. They went out in droves to vote against his surrogate and we ended up in the situation we are in today.... with a President either hell bent on destruction or completely incompetent or both.



  12. Steven Kurta
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    2 posts
    5/19/2017 12:05 PM
    Hey Ron! Been good. Took a break after Wallace and Dmac.. miss those guys. All else good. Smooth runnings.


    Yeah, agreed. Obama had an opportunity to be "great" -- lead by example wrt compromise instead of ramming stuff through. He didn't have to clobber the right and "middle (white) america". He had the clout to anger his own base and get away with compromising and working with his detractors -- compromise with the right! Give a little to everyone..but he choose to push further left, and well, didn't end up going his way.
    Sad that the political knee-jerk to that gave us this clown show as president. Embarrassing all around, for those that voted for him (trump) and for those that supported Obama's policies that kept pushing people into places they couldn't exist. Just because people are wrong, doesn't mean you can ignore them.
    Hindsight is 20/20 though, eh?
    Ah well, at least the Russia stuff will be interesting whatever they find.



  13. Stephen Okula
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    3 posts
    5/19/2017 2:05 PM
    Steven Kurta said: Me: Looking past Trump, because he's an anomaly, and trying to see a positive in the next 3+ years.
    Similar to what many did during Bams.. I'm hopeful it spurs some good young moderates to emerge from both sides that know how to compromise. That it's come to this (trump) is ridiculous.

    Hillz was an awful candidate. The dems should've stepped aside and run a dud. They were done, let it go, bams tried and failed.. Let the better choices in the GOP present themselves and move on. Kasich was a great choice. It's a shame real talent was passed over. That it had to turn into a clown show where Trump actually exists as potus, IMO, says more about how much pent-up hate and outrage still exists in this country.. It's weird, but not surprising. Those kinds of feelings don't die easily, 150 years isn't.that long ago in the scheme of tbings.

    Looking forward to moderates like Sasse and Flake, and even Ryan, to give him the best shovel and plenty of room to dig and let him slowly bury himself.. Let him suffocate. Take what they need as they can and cut him loose when the time is right.

    The funny part is the dems brought trump into relevancy by running Hillary.. They created trump's legitimacy through their blindness.. They're ridiculous for not seeing it and deserve a lot of the credit/blame for this.


    Some good points, Steve. I voted for Hillary not because I liked her but because I wanted to stop Trump. If Kasich were the Republican nominee, it would have been a no-brainer to vote for him oer Hillary. He's been on the air lately, and the man makes sense.

    But I fail to see how the Democrats are to blame for the Republican primary voters choosing a certifiable sociopath over perfectly viable alternative candidates.



  14. Steven Kurta
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    2 posts
    5/19/2017 4:05 PM
    It's just that they'd been in power for 8 years, I guess, was my point. To ask moderate republicans or swing voters for that matter, to vote for another 4 years of liberal policies and with a dynastic character like Hillz (opposed to Bernie) was beyond hope. Sticking hillz in there "because it waz her turn" forced a lot of people who might've voted for a more sensible candidate, to vote against her instead because god forbid she get in and keep this commie train a rollin...their (moderates)choice was taken away..like you said yourself, and I was the same, we voted for hillary not because she'd do a good job, but because she was the only thing in the way of trump.. Trump was a non-option, a joke..And I suspect a lot of moderate republicans felt the same way about hillz..the only candidate thst can stop her is this man-baby trump..its like the gift of the madgi but completely different. :)

    Anyhow, I. Think the powers that be in the DNC should've looked at how they wanted to lose this one and which GOP candidate they could've lived with and pulled strings to get him or her elected so to speak.. Get hillz to take one for the team and, since it's going to be a GOP potus anyway, make it the one who shares more of your values..
    But yeah, nah.. Now we have this.. We have a laughing stock. A punchline for a president.. Blame to go around for everyone.. Hopefully some wisdom comes out of it.



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