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  1. DiFonzo Thomas L
    DiFonzo Thomas L avatar
    2/25/2016 8:02 AM
    Looking for some info on goose control. I have a 10-year old Border Collie who has been very effective over the years. He has some health issues now and the geese are getting more and more comfortable on the golf course. My board wants some actions taken, and are even suggesting we (...meaning me) get another dog. I don't have room in my life for another dog right now, nor does anyone on my limited staff. I've researched decoy predators, pinwheels, fencing, mylar ribbons, strings, chemical repellents, strobe lights, all with limited results at best. So far it seems dogs and guns are the only proven methods. There are legally supported hunting options for us to consider but this seems to be more political for the obvious reasons. Can anyone help me streamline this project with successes and failures before my next Greens Committee Meeting? Thanks all in advance.



  2. Ronald Conard
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    2/25/2016 9:02 AM
    Thomas,

    Our Parks Department bought a border collie and run it by the golf course on a daily basis. As you know they work great but the other tool that works in conjunction is a "goose-a-nator" type device. We bought one of these and in my opinion it works even better than a dog. I can't even set it down some days before the geese panic.

    Here's the link

    http://www.rccuda.com/

    The only down side is that in high winds it's a "no go". But it can run over land, ice, and water.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8w95Hms1xc

    Also, are you addling eggs? I think the long term approach is to stop the reproduction of your resident geese. It will take years to accomplish but at least the population will start to dwindle each year and not grow. We receive a permit from the State Fish and Game. It's time consuming and inevitably you miss a nest but it's better than having 40 goslings every year.



  3. William Tolbert
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    2/25/2016 10:02 AM
    Try the goosinator. We have had our's for 2 years and we don't have a problem any more. You will still have geese on your property for time to time, but they will fly off when they see the goosinator.



  4. Jeffrey Christensen
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    2/25/2016 10:02 AM
    I have used one of those aerosol sirens to scare them away. If they have been around a while, they will come back but if you can be persistent, they will ultimately go elsewhere.



  5. Dennis Petruzzelli
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    5 posts
    2/25/2016 12:02 PM
    I recently purchased the green laser pointer with excellent results. No noise, little to no effort. It has to be used in early am or cloudy days only. Spooks them ! It might take a few attempts but it has work extremely well, even from inside my car with window down.

    Dennis Petruzzelli, CGCS
    CC of Woodbridge
    Woodbridge, CT



  6. Christopher Thuer
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    101 posts
    2/25/2016 12:02 PM
    Bottle rockets work.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

  7. Diaz Robert E
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    1/23/2017 1:01 PM
    Love it, whistling bottle rockets work best and cheap. I get mine in another state, but the guys fight over chasing the geese now. Can also just carry around in Ziploc until needed. Much fun also for 13 yrs. have had great success.
    Trick is getting them off in spring before they get comfy.



  8. Christopher Thuer
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    101 posts
    1/24/2017 9:01 AM
    Same. I always have bottle rockets on my cart. I also have them in the drivers side door well of my truck for when I see geese on the course when driving by.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

  9. Bill Brooks
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    18 posts
    1/24/2017 10:01 AM
    At my previous course i obtained a permit through the state and national wildlife to addle goose eggs. In three years we cut our number in half of geese on the course. If you can show evidence of property damage (like geese feeding on golf greens), should not be a problem to get.



  10. Michael Kriz
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    1/24/2017 10:01 AM
    How did you find the nests? We have a huge flock and growing yearly but amazingly we cannot find their nests



  11. Christopher Lewis
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    1/24/2017 2:01 PM
    We also use the Goosinator. We went from a constant flock of 3,000 geese on the course during the winter, now we have under 100 We would spend 16 man hours per day shoveling, blowing, and breathing goose crap all winter. Now we spend 2 hours per week doing goose cleanup. The results are almost instant and no vet or food bills to deal with.



  12. Jonathan Jacques
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    1/25/2017 7:01 AM
    Could always outsource the problem. I know in my area there's a company that has their own dogs and will come to the golf course a few times a day. Even the town I live it uses this company to help control geese on our beaches and public park areas.



  13. Andy Jorgensen
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    1/25/2017 8:01 AM
    Learned yesterday about a Superintendent that bought these. Put them randomly around his lake. Probably pulled power from an irrigation controller and put them on a timer. Guess it worked pretty good if someone else is talking about it.

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/GreenLighting-Outdoor-Laser-Show-Christmas-Light-Projector-w-IR-Wireless-Remote/101858224



  14. Bobby Goerlich
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    1/27/2017 9:01 AM
    So much of what we do or say can be unpopular. However, I've always felt that we as superintendents are not doing anyone else, especially ourselves, any favors by telling our bosses, committee members, members, etc., what they want to hear. Obviously we have certain political considerations with virtually everything we do. Regarding the persistent goose dilemma, let me elaborate on my particular situation. I work at a Semi-Private Sole Proprietorship whose founder was an avid hunter. He didn't just hunt deer, etc., but rather grizzly bears in Alaska every year. We have a huge stuffed grizzly bear situated next to the pro shop. Not only that we have caribou and elk, not to mention a wolverine mount. The original owner since passed away and his son now owns and manages our facility. As soon as the geese start landing on the golf course, the old super. and owner would break out the 12 gauge shotguns and shoot as many as they were legally allowed. The old super. retired and I was hired. The first thing I was told to do is get rid of the geese, the same way it has been done for the last 70 years, yep, with the 12 gauge.
    As a hunter myself, I refuse to harvest an animal, or bird in this case, if I am not going to eat it. Long story short... the most effective deterrent to continued goose propagation is to have one flopping on the ground for all the other geese to see. I make jerky out of the breasts, and try more than anything else, to simply get the geese off of our golf course and somewhere else. Unfortunately, for my good friend super. at the next golf course over, he's loaded with geese now and we are not. I know this won't be acceptable practice at many of your facilities, but it is darn effective. Bobby Goerlich



  15. Bobby Goerlich
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    1/27/2017 9:01 AM
    I should add regarding my last post on Canadian Geese, there are federal nuisance permits available to curtail your goose population, depending on your region in the United States. Often times, your local gooses seasons do not coincide with your goose arrival dates and subsequent associated problems. Good luck. Bobby G.



  16. Peter Bowman
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    11 posts
    1/27/2017 9:01 AM
    Bobby J Goerlich said: ... Long story short... the most effective deterrent to continued goose propagation is to have one flopping on the ground for all the other geese to see. I make jerky out of the breasts, ...


    I don't hunt, and I've never had goose breast jerky. So, my question is, how do you go about getting one to flop around on the ground for the other geese to see?



  17. Larry Allan
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    1/27/2017 11:01 AM
    Strangely enough, considering where I hail from we have not had a single resident goose on our property in 15 year,
    I have a Labradoodle. I let the pond surround naturalize about a meter from the edge.
    That is it



  18. Christopher Thuer
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    101 posts
    1/27/2017 4:01 PM
    I have seen them flop around for a while after being hit by golf balls, accidentally. ;)

    We are next to a good size water reservoir that has a significant goose population and we are surrounded by corn/bean fields. We occasionally get quite a few geese but between the bottle rockets and the two family dogs (humane society rescues) that love to chase them, the geese don't stick around long. We also have the buffer strips around the ponds and the creeks.

    Chris Thuer, CGCS, Bear Slide Golf Club, Cicero, IN

  19. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    1/27/2017 10:01 PM
    I have this story, was playing in the afternoon with a group and there was this teenage kid playing with a couple of pros from the range and myself. We're on the 3rd tee and there was a goose walking up by the next set of tees in front of us. We were kidding the kid, saying "do you have enough loft on that driver to hit over him?" Obviously not as he hit it broadside right below the wing. He fell over and hardly moved. I'm thinking great, now I've got to ask one of my guys if they would pick it up in the morning for me, because I just can't do that kind of stuff, (I know wimpy, just can't do it, ask my wife about who has had to pick up the dead rabbit from our evil queen) Any how, I drive out the next morning and the goose was gone. No evidence of a predator, we figured with all that blubber on the side, it had just stunned it.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  20. Bill Brooks
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    18 posts
    2/3/2017 9:02 AM
    Michael Kriz to answer your question, we had a lagoon within the golf course and it had a few islands. Geese normally build their nest a few feet from water. Until the eggs hatch the geese are paired up. One sits on the nest while the other keeps an eye out. We grabbed a canoe and my buddies rat-terrier went to the islands let the dog run and within minutes a goose would go flying into the water. Geese normally are territorial so they won't build right next to each other. Good luck!



  21. Larry Allan
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    2/3/2017 10:02 AM
    I read recently some one was experimenting with those rotating Christmas lasers that spotlight the side of a building. I can't think of the name off hand but they have become popular recently

    He claimed the ponds were now goose free.

    They can be set up to work only after low light sets in, so as not to zap a member while putting



  22. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    2/3/2017 12:02 PM
    Michael Kriz said: How did you find the nests? We have a huge flock and growing yearly but amazingly we cannot find their nests


    They can be hard to find and some years a nest will go unnoticed. But in the spring, as early as the first week in March here, they will begin to pair up. Keep an eye on the pairs. Once you see they are no longer in pairs but rather you see a single sitting out on the lake near the shoreline, then you have a female on a nest nearby. We send a couple of guys in a boat and a couple walking the shoreline scouting out. Another sign would be matted down cattails, as they will access their nests from pretty much the same trail if they can do so and will actually leave a faint trail.



  23. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    2/3/2017 12:02 PM
    Larry Allan said: Strangely enough, considering where I hail from we have not had a single resident goose on our property in 15 year,
    I have a Labradoodle. I let the pond surround naturalize about a meter from the edge.
    That is it


    Red, they do need a food source and they love fine turfgrass.



  24. Michael Kriz
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    2/3/2017 3:02 PM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:
    Michael Kriz said: How did you find the nests? We have a huge flock and growing yearly but amazingly we cannot find their nests


    They can be hard to find and some years a nest will go unnoticed. But in the spring, as early as the first week in March here, they will begin to pair up. Keep an eye on the pairs. Once you see they are no longer in pairs but rather you see a single sitting out on the lake near the shoreline, then you have a female on a nest nearby. We send a couple of guys in a boat and a couple walking the shoreline scouting out. Another sign would be matted down cattails, as they will access their nests from pretty much the same trail if they can do so and will actually leave a faint trail.


    We've been looking for years and have been unsuccessful, thinking now they may be nesting far from our irrigation pond but still nearby. Our pond is in the middle of the course



  25. Bill Brooks
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    18 posts
    2/4/2017 9:02 AM
    Mike, I will be at the SDGCSA if you want to chat with me about it more



  26. Michael Kriz
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    2/4/2017 10:02 AM
    Has to be by phone, going to GIS but not the SD conference...tough choice, Orlando or Sioux Falls!!!



  27. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    2/6/2017 8:02 AM
    Michael Kriz said:
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said:
    Michael Kriz said: How did you find the nests? We have a huge flock and growing yearly but amazingly we cannot find their nests


    They can be hard to find and some years a nest will go unnoticed. But in the spring, as early as the first week in March here, they will begin to pair up. Keep an eye on the pairs. Once you see they are no longer in pairs but rather you see a single sitting out on the lake near the shoreline, then you have a female on a nest nearby. We send a couple of guys in a boat and a couple walking the shoreline scouting out. Another sign would be matted down cattails, as they will access their nests from pretty much the same trail if they can do so and will actually leave a faint trail.


    We've been looking for years and have been unsuccessful, thinking now they may be nesting far from our irrigation pond but still nearby. Our pond is in the middle of the course


    That could be. We had some goslings and their mother come from somewhere off property, walk across traffic and about 1/2 mile across the course to our irrigation lake. My theory is that the mother was born at the lake but our hazing has drove her somewhere else to nest. The good news is this group eventually left but I wouldn't be surprised if they returned.



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