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  1. Joseph Davis
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    9/21/2018 10:09 PM
    I'm curious to see if anyone utilizes alternative scheduling or creative scheduling at their facility. This could be starting later in the day to have more dry cuts or different ways of scheduling your crew during the week to suffice the hours worked during the weekend.

    Anyway, if you are someone who feels they are different, feel free to list out how you do it differently. Thanks!



  2. Mark Van Lienden
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    9/22/2018 6:09 AM
    I like going four week days and a half day on weekends . This eliminates overtime and gives the employee a weekday to schedule bussiness or doctor appointments . A Sunday Monday off or a Friday Saturday off. I never really could get the late start to work seemed to lose the team atmosphere , no mechanic during mowing .



  3. Kyle Fick
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    9/23/2018 10:09 AM
    We do like Mark does as the post above. It took me over 10 years to figure out that scenario seems to be the best out there for our application. For years, I did a split time deal where I'd bring in just enough to do morning chores and the remainder few folks would begin at 11:30 am or noon. We'd then mow dry turf all afternoon. It sucked. we weren't efficient, and waited for golf all the time. It also taxed someone to be on site till the day was done at 7:30 pm. Usually at the cost of the Superintendent. Again, no mechanic after 3 pm, and that's when things went wrong.

    It did a lot for moral of employees to do the Sunday-Thursday and Tuesday through Saturday scheduling. We'd be fully staffed Tuesday-THursday to do cultural stuff, a few light projects, and hold all our team meetings with all folks present. Doesn't always work out, but more often than not is a great way to do things.

    It fit our play to go that way, but may not work everywhere.



  4. Melvin Waldron
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    9/28/2018 9:09 AM
    We do the same with a Sunday - Thursday or Tuesday - Saturday group. We do work 8 hours every day, our full timers need to get 40 hours in. During the off season on the weekend day, one person will come in, check the course, call the frost if needed and then will go home and use either vacation, or some of their other time that they built up, we can earn comp time when working over 40 hours a week, so some will use that.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  5. Kyle Fick
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    9/28/2018 3:09 PM
    I forgot to add, we do 4 9 hour shifts and the weekend day is a 4 hour jobby to make a full 40 for the week. Probably inferred that though.



  6. Peter Bowman
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    9/28/2018 6:09 PM
    Split your crew in two. Each crew works 11 days on, then 3 days off. Two of the 11 days on are 4-hr days (Sat-Sun), so, in a two-week pay period everybody gets an 80-hr paycheck.

    Half the crew is off Sat-Sun-Mon. When they come back they work 11 days straight. Tues (8hrs)-Wed (8)-Thurs(8)-Fri(8)-Sat(4)-Sun(4)= 40 hrs. They then work Mon-Fri(8) = 40 hrs. They then get another 3 days off.

    Good? I loved having 3 days off in a row. It was like having a national holiday 3-day weekend every other week, and even though I worked 11 straight, 2 of those were only 4-hr days. I was home after work Sat and Sun before the wife and kids even knew I was gone.

    Bad? We only had a full crew on Tues-Wed-Thur-Fri.

    Opinion? I don't buy the argument the guys like having one day off during the middle of the week to go to the bank or DMV, or shopping. I believe they'd much rather have 3 days off in a row, and only have to work every other weekend.



  7. Maria Del Pilar Pinzon
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    10/23/2018 6:10 AM
    Hello, my name is Maria del Pilar Pinzon, from Colombia, I work as superintendent of golf courses at Mesa de Yeguas Country Club, I would like to know how you inform the golf committee about all the actions carried out on the golf course (management reports, results etc)
    I would appreciate your help very much
    Thank you
    magramas.gerencia@gmail.com



  8. Salomon Valles
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    1/8/2019 6:01 AM
    Good morning. One of the ways is to set the standards and programs to reach them with the members of the committee and then follow-up what has been done and then send a report of what has been achieved weekly, using a % scale and telling them the reasons why you did not reach 100%, It's very easy.



  9. Scot Haynes
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    2/25/2019 12:02 PM
    Peter Bowman, CGCS said: Split your crew in two. Each crew works 11 days on, then 3 days off. Two of the 11 days on are 4-hr days (Sat-Sun), so, in a two-week pay period everybody gets an 80-hr paycheck.

    Half the crew is off Sat-Sun-Mon. When they come back they work 11 days straight. Tues (8hrs)-Wed (8)-Thurs(8)-Fri(8)-Sat(4)-Sun(4)= 40 hrs. They then work Mon-Fri(8) = 40 hrs. They then get another 3 days off.

    Good? I loved having 3 days off in a row. It was like having a national holiday 3-day weekend every other week, and even though I worked 11 straight, 2 of those were only 4-hr days. I was home after work Sat and Sun before the wife and kids even knew I was gone.

    Bad? We only had a full crew on Tues-Wed-Thur-Fri.

    Opinion? I don't buy the argument the guys like having one day off during the middle of the week to go to the bank or DMV, or shopping. I believe they'd much rather have 3 days off in a row, and only have to work every other weekend.


    This is the way to go. At first I didn't like it because half the crew was gone during "maintenance Monday" However, I've been on this schedule for six months and I now love it. We still get a lot accomplished like spraying, mowing fwys, rough, etc.because the club is shut down. The guys love it and so do I. It makes our schedule almost normal.



  10. Kyle Fick
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    3/10/2019 4:03 PM
    Not to beat a dead horse on this subject, but as the grasp of an arduous winter is about to release across the northern plains, it nice to revisit topics as such.

    So when you all are doing the 3 off, 11 on scenario, I'd like to ask what is the backbone of your crew? I'm going to go out on limb here an add why I'm no longer an advocate of this. As years have gone by, and our operation moprhed from utilizing predominantly H2B labor; to what I will call transient post high school or college experience workers; to now being a 50/50 split of retired work campers, middle age guys/girls who don't want to grow up, and college students (zero local labor force to draw from mind you), there's no way my older guys could endure the 11 on to reach a 3 off. I'll even advocate the effort improves, to a degree, from the consistant 2.5 days off per week scenario.

    Scheduling and labor are and will be the largest challenge for turf managers going forward. All the technology in the world is great and wonderful, but the ability to implement the human touch and artistic eye is becoming rapidly more difficult. Finding the proverbial "gym rat" who just wants to play a bunch of golf after work is harder and harder, especially in the more remote locations where a labor pool is non existant.

    All that being said, and with no malice of intent, I think the scheduling thing is going to be very property dependent. There's no model that represents each facilities needs and staffing requirements. I guess I'll utilize my experenience and leave it with a statement that suggests getting some input from your longest tenured employees. I think we all have to remember that the grass doesn't care what day of the week anything happens. I understand standards and quality concerns, and I believe I have extremely high standards, and that not every suggestion can be implemented, but make sure your staff are pleased to come to work. Because let's face it, we all need each and everyone of them to look our best each and every day.



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